A guest post by Janet (@Janetnorcal), an experienced romance reader very knowledgeable about Regency romance in particular, who posts often at Book Lovers Resource and Keira (@KeiraSoleore, whose avatar never ever fails to make me grin), an aspiring romance author who blogs at her own Cogitations and Meditations.
How the point-counterpoint blog got started: Janet Webb sent Keira Soleore a Twitter Direct Message:
Direct message from Janet Webb: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:50:00 PM
I know [..] doesn’t purport to speak for anyone but don’t you occasionally get tired of articles focusing on Ivy league/Rom writer? I do.
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Direct message from Keira Soleore: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:55:09 PM
The reason so much media attention is on Ivy Leaguers is because everyone used to think romance writers & readers were losers…
…The fact that smart accomplished women are doing it gives it legitimacy. Akin to academic scholars lending it legitimacy.
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From: Janet Webb
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 6:22 PM
To: Keira Soleore
Subject: We should do a point/counterpoint blog on this …
Oh, I don’t believe that although I think that the ignorant outside world believes that. I think I must have missed all of the disdain — or ignored it. I started with Georgette Heyer, who was beloved by men and women alike: there was no embarrassment involved in loving her books. I don’t think that smart accomplished women writing romance gives it legitimacy, nor do I think that academic scholars writing about it lend it legitimacy. I think the worth of the books themselves gives it legitimacy. Like “Sunshine and Shadow” by Laura & Tom Curtis. I could name a million more. Don’t misunderstand me: I love smart books by anyone. And I love academic writing about the genre that interests me most — I just don’t think it makes it legitimate.
I totally understand journalists going for the obvious story — Ivy League prof writes Romance. But that’s because they aren’t prepared to dig a tad deeper …
Cheers!
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From: Keira Soleore
To: Janet Webb
Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 1:17:55 PM
Subject: RE: We should do a point/counterpoint blog on this …
See, we’re romance readers. We don’t feel any disdain. But I have only to look at the wonderful people I know who are outside the romance reading community to know the disdain and disregard they hold for romance novels. They do believe, unfairly so and without direct actual knowledge, that those are dirty books with poor writing; in other words “salacious” is the only way to describe them. Those lurid covers do not help at all!!!!!!!!
So that’s been my experience with romance’s reputation. Almost everyone I speak to in Romancelandia says similar things. So, yes indeed, the perception of romance in the larger world is more like “nudge-nudge-wink-wink porn for women” written by chubby, plain, not-so-bright sex-starved women. Do I agree with this? A thousand times no. But non-romance readers do believe this. The books are not getting the respect they deserve all by themselves.
That is why highly educated, successful women writing romance are needed to make a huge impact on romance’s perception. There is no one, not a single person, who has done more in this fashion than Nora Roberts. She has educated the media and the reading public to some extent. Without Nora, we wouldn’t even be where we are today.
And we have leagues to go. You don’t have to convince me, nor I you. We already know and respect the genre. We want wider acceptance and respect. That is why folks like Eloisa James, Julia Quinn, Lauren Willig, Cara Elliott, etc. are so important. Similarly, college courses offered in Princeton and other universities on popular romance give it further legitimacy for the world at large.
“I totally understand journalists going for the obvious story — Ivy League prof writes Romance. But that’s because they aren’t prepared to dig a tad deeper … “
>> I’m not sure I understand. Dig deeper for what?
Keira
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From: Janet Webb
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:40 PM
To: Keira Soleore
Subject: Re: We should do a point/counterpoint blog on this …
I’ll have to think about what you’ve said. It’s hard for me not to think that courses about Romance are to Literature as Rocks for Jocks are to Geology (see what I mean — outside world looking in). You’ll never believe what my mum just said about Betty Neels. That she quite enjoyed it and that it would make good hospital reading. Do you think that was because of the lack of Brighton? I know she really didn’t like Mary Balogh — because as a devotee of Austen and Heyer, she just kept seeing the problems and inaccuracies.
And you see, I don’t think I agree that professors who teach on the subject of the genre and smart women writers are changing the face of the genre and how it’s regarded. Does romance command more respect today? Just a few months ago the NY Times wrote a very tongue-in-cheek article about e-books and romance. I wasn’t feeling the respect.
Nora Roberts has a high school education — she’s as smart as beans and a fantastic writer and it’s the force of her books that command respect. I wouldn’t think she would even want that mantle. To me she is a butt to the seat writer who has a few close female writer pals but who speaks to the world — like she actually sponsors a local baseball team! She’s not cliquey, she’s not gossipy, she’s not whingey, she’s straightforward and she’s absolutely never complains, never explains. I could not imagine her in a million years complaining to a magazine, online or paper, about a review that she was unhappy with. She is so different in the way she interacts with the world compared to almost every romance writer I know. Now maybe I don’t know enough romance writers — I can definitely think of a few that are following in Nora’s footsteps.
To be continued … let’s keep the conversation going!
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From: Keira Soleore
To: Janet Webb
Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 3:07:47 PM
Subject: RE: We should do a point/counterpoint blog on this …
The publishing industry is doing nothing to get romance noticed. Now, while the comments are still snide, at least romance is getting media coverage. Quite a bit of it as compared with before, because romance has shown itself to be a publishing phenomenon and there’s so much online conversation happened about it. Before, it was discarded as frivolous and not worthy of any ink in the media.
Despite being a publishing phenomenon, that is not what will sustain the upward swing of interest and respect towards the genre. Remember people have to read the books in order to be able to possibly respect them. Articles by respected individuals, university courses, etc. are standard guidelines of legitimacy. Application of those to the genre is a way to raise its profile. (I really wish publishers would lose those covers.)
Popular Literature is treated like that by the Literature Department. All genre literature is looked down upon. But the more university students clamor for those classes and the more teachers offer them, the more accepted the genre becomes. Like pop culture was accepted, so will romance.
Nora is all you’ve said and more. She took on the mantle of becoming the voice of romance for many years. Now that there are the Smart Bitches and many other bloggers, she’s stepped back from it all. Still when important stuff comes up, she’s there commenting, writing memos, being interviewed, etc.
Janet, who do you think is following in Nora’s footsteps?
Keira
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Ok, folks, can you answer Keira’s question? Any thoughts?





