Jane Austen’s Persuasion: Random observations, current controversy, two questions and two finale scenes

Oct 31 2010

This is a motley post about Persuasion, with mostly observations from other people. I make a couple of observations and ask two questions. At the end, I include the final scenes from the 1995 and 2007 adaptations, which make for an interesting contrast in interpretation.

1. In 2008, Sarah Frantz, an Austen scholar, reported on giving a paper on romance with several other romance scholars at the Jane Austen Society of North America. Among Sarah’s comments:

…for Janeites to disavow the romance label is, I think, at best disingenuous and at worst, willfully rewriting literary history.

This article, for instance, makes me crazy.

Of the new “chick-lit” style covers of Austen, Thompson argues: Of Persuasion: “Pure Mills & Boon, in fact; and sublimely inappropriate to the tone of this sad, shadowy novel.” Did she read the same novel I did? Persuasion is my favorite Austen novel because she takes a sad, autumnal tone and turns it into the most stunningly compelling expression of the power and optimism of romance you could ever hope to read: “You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope.” Indeed.

2. I enjoyed reading Nandrea, Lorri G. “DIFFERENCE AND REPETITION IN AUSTEN’S PERSUASION.” Studies in the Novel 39, no. 1 (Spring2007 2007): 48-64. Some quotes:

At the very beginning, Austen defies such a narrative structure by repeatedly assuring us that everything is already over. The “history and rise of the ancient and respectable [Elliot] family” has been told already and has reached its “finale”; the “very awkward history” of Elizabeth’s courtship has ended, as has Wentworth’s courtship of Anne: “this little history of sorrowful interest had reached its close”. No situation seems open to progress, complication, or development. Moreover, though most of the characters are in motion by the end of the fifth chapter, none seem to be moving toward anything.

Indeed, the plot of the novel will be composed of a complex series of repetitions.

Throughout this novel, Austen probes the relationship between foreseeable futures and unforeseeable events. The act of persuasion itself bears a special relationship to the future tense, often relying on the seductive articulation of a projected scenario.

Ultimately, the novel makes it possible to picture social hegemony itself as a continuously renegotiated product of persuasion, the result that obtains when many individuals are persuaded to share a particular point of view.

And yet the text also tells us that there is no such thing as too late. A sense of the ways in which present and future are underdetermined by the past works to preserve the chance of the future–especially its chance to differ from whatever has already happened–together with the revolutionary potential of every single “now.”

3. A controversy has arisen in recent weeks over Austen’s writing. From BBC News:

The elegant writing style of novelist Jane Austen may have been the work of her editor, an academic has claimed. Professor Kathryn Sutherland of Oxford University reached her conclusion while studying 1,100 original handwritten pages of Austen’s unpublished writings.

From Jane Austen Today, a good summary post of the recent brouhaha.

Sutherland is not new to controversy. In 2009 she accused another scholar of stealing her ideas:

Oxford academic and Austen authority Professor Kathryn Sutherland is claiming that a new book by award-winning biographer Claire Harman has copied her own radical ideas about the novelist, pulled together over 10 years of research and published by her in 2005.

“I have never accused anyone of using my material before,” said Sutherland this weekend, “but it feels a bit like identity theft. Claire has been very canny and she writes very well, but I am finding that I cannot write about my own research because people tell me it is too similar to the key arguments in Claire’s book.”

I liked what Jonathan Jones had to say at the Guardian books blog:

Jane Austen’s style is not a bit of polishing on the surface of her novels, it goes deep into their structure, which is why they are so satisfying. Elegant moral thought is embedded in the design of her characters, their comic voices, the ironies of her plots. At their most achieved, the effect is not just witty but profound. But they are not always perfectly achieved and that is significant. You can see evolution, improvement in her work and, some say, decline as well. It makes no sense to attribute her brilliance to the hand of a (male) editor when we can so clearly see her learning on the job, see her style grow. It is organic, it is not in fact a “style” but a voice. Jane Austen’s voice is special and it is unique.

It’s interesting to contrast Sutherland’s claims with the touching biographical notice of the author in Persuasion‘s preface her brother Henry:

The style of her familiar correspondence was in all respects the same as that of her novels. Every thing came finished from her pen; for on all subjects she had ideas as clear as her expressions were well chosen. It is not hazarding too much to say that she never dispatched a note or letter unworthy of publication.

4. “Austen’s triumph was to make everything connect” in “the kaleidoscope of her mind” (129) From Harris, Jocelyn. Jane Austen’s Art of Memory. Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1989.

5. Not about Persuasion, but this synopsis gave me a huge giggle:


JANE BITES BACK (Ballantine. 2009. ISBN 9780345513656. pap. $14), Michael Thomas Ford sends up both Austenmania and the vampire craze. Turned into a vampire in the 19th century, Jane today owns a small bookshop in upstate New York. She watches other people capitalize on her name while she attempts unsuccessfully to sell her unpublished manuscript. Complications include her fellow vampire Lord Byron and confrontations with Bronte fanatics.

–from Jerrit, Jessica. “No Persuasion Necessary: Jane Austen’s Eternal Appeal.” Library Journal 135, no. 15 (September 15, 2010): 107.)

6. My favorite negative review of Persuasion from Amazon.com:

I don’t know what all of you are talking about. I found this book to be boring, bourgeois and completely unsympathetic. I can not imagine anyone relating to any of these characters, unless you are extremely rich and live in 19th century England. It was, however, well written.

7. I was struck again in reading Persuasion what remarkable insight Jane Austen had, and more than that, the ability to express it. That’s my true joy in reading Jane Austen. For example, when describing Anne’s father, she writes,

Vanity was the beginning and the end of Sir Walter Elliot’s character; vanity of person and of situation.

I think another writer would have ended her observation with “character”. But by adding “and of situation” Austen captures the way some people are born on third base and think they hit a triple.

Or when Anne is thinking about the Musgroves, and how happily married they are:

Anne always contemplated them as some of the happiest creatures of her acquaintance, but still, saved as we all are, by some comfortable feeling of superiority from wishing for the possibility of exchange, she would not have given up her own more elegant and cultivated mind for all their enjoyments…”

To me, the phrase “saved as we all are by some comfortable feeling of superiority…” elevates this into a very astute observation.

The early scene when Anne stays home with her injured nephew is one of my favorites, because of the way Austen captures the way people lie outlandishly to themselves for their own selfish ends. Anne’s sister convinces herself that she doesn’t need to stay home, that Anne should do it, because:

…I am of no use at home, am I? and it only harasses me. You, who have not a mother’s feelings, are a great deal the properest person.

See, being a mom makes you a poor choice to nurse your child … because you feel too much. That’s the ticket!

8. Everything about Chapter 23 is magic. I especially loved:

Men have had every advantage of us in telling their own story. Education has been theirs in so much higher a degree; the pen has been in their hands. I will not allow books to prove any thing.

And of course, at that very moment, a man is writing something, that she allows to prove something very important.

9. A question: What do you make of Lady Russell?

10. And another one: Why did Captain Harville Wentworth say he had found Anne so altered?

11. There are many film adaptations of Persuasion. I watched the 1995 one with Ciarán Hinds, which I liked a lot. Here are two video clips of Anne and Captain Wentworth meeting after she reads his letter, the first from the 1995 version, and second from the 2007:

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Although I think the 2007 Captain is better looking, I prefer Hinds in the role. how about you? Have a favorite (or least favorite) Persuasion adaptation?

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    Janice says:

    The 1995 adaptation with Amanda Root is my favourite. I was thrilled to find it in DVD a few years back since my VHS copy was dark and had lousy sound levels.

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    CupK8 says:

    The 1995 one is the only I’ve seen thoroughly. The 2007 cast seems a bit young to me. Ciaran Hinds is just… yum. He’s not your typical Hollywood handsome, but that works for me for this story. If he’s too handsome, it takes away from the family’s sudden “OMG WE LOVE YOU” when he becomes a war hero, IMO. You know, the 1995 film is the only film adaptation of an Austen novel that’s been on my list for ages that I don’t own. It’s second only to the Firth Pride & Prejudice in my mind.

    Now I want to re-read this book! Perhaps I will re-read over the fall break, and then get back to you regarding the other questions. :)

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    Kristen says:

    Very interesting post! Jane Austen was very observant and insightful, and I loved the quotes you chose. I haven’t actually read Persuasion since I was in college (which was longer ago than I care to dwell on), so I don’t remember very many details about it. It does, however, boggle my mind that someone said the characters were only sympathetic if you were living in the same exact time period with a great amount of wealth. I thought Anne’s general situation – wanting to marry someone her family did not approve of – was very easy to relate to and sympathetic. Even if someone can’t relate to her specific situation, having one’s family stand against his/her own heart’s desires seems very easy to empathize with.

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    Liz says:

    1. I like the Root/Hinds version too, though both endings bug me because of the too-public declarations and embraces. So wrong for this novel. The 2007 one is just wrong in every way.
    Elegant Anne running after a man in the street??

    2. I LOVE that line about the “comfortable feeling of superiority”–I identify very strongly (and rather painfully, because it’s a criticism) with Anne at that moment. One thing I love about Austen is that she treats even her heros and heroines, with whom we sympathize, with ironic detachment when they deserve it. (And I think this is why no film adaptation is fully satisfying–they go for a swoony romanticism, at least at the end, that is so un-Austen, if pleasurable. Austen doesn’t get carried away by emotion.).

    3. Lady Russell: I think that I think she’s there, in part, to remind us that being “elegant” is no excuse for harboring the same kind of prejudice that Sir Walter does. Lady Russell likes position, too. She expresses that more elegantly and tastefully, but the result is in some ways the same. (Somewhat like the moment in Pride and Prejudice where Elizabeth realizes that she’s excusing Wickham’s need to make a mercenary marriage when she’s condemned Charlotte for the same thing, just because he’s charming and male.

    Great post full of interesting ideas. Man, I love this novel!

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    Kaetrin says:

    I have only seen the 4:39 you posted of the 2007 version but it was enough to convince me that I don’t really want to. Wentworth just looked wrong – too young and, just… wrong! I’m a Ciaran Hinds girl I’m afraid. I saw this at the movies when it first came out and I had a bit of a crush on him afterwards. Plus the 1995 version had them sailing off into the sunset – what a wonderful cliche!!

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    Merrian says:

    I am a 1995, Ciaran Hinds fan. Persuasion remains my favourite Austen novel because of the way it begins with the broken relationships and no sense of possibilities and then things are changed. There is that sense of life already lived and how we all a little bit broken by living it so I can relate to the story (unlike the Amazon reviewer). Also it is a story about Anne coming to know herself and her worth and having a sense of entitlement to happiness, so the advent of the Captain returning to Anne’s life isn’t just about the sudden opportunity to reconnect and make different choices but an opportunity for Anne to go on an inner journey too.

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    I’ve watched both adaptations, 1995 and 2007, though admittedly I’ve seen the 1995 version at least three times. The way the 2007 version was completely lacking in humor seemed wrong to me, given it was Jane Austen. Anyway, vastly prefer the 1995 version though I do actually think the 2007 version is well acted.

    Having watching MI-5/Spooks I kept having flashbacks during the 2007 version, since Captain Wentworth has also been a spy. I think that may speak to my not being entirely engaged by the movie.

    Oh, and sister Mary in the 1995 version is priceless.

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    Samantha says:

    I love the 1995 version. I was eleven when it came out and my whole family watched it together. It’s my dad’s favorite Austen film because of the emphasis on the naval Napoleonic Wars (he also loved all the Patrick O’Brien books). I’d always liked P&P best, but as I got older and perhaps more cynical, Persuasion increasingly became my favorite. I think it’s an adult’s book, a realistic book that allows for very human pain along with exquisite romance. You feel for Anne Elliott in a much deeper way than you do for Marianne Dashwood’s sorrows in S&S.

    I also just want to add that my boyfriend proposed last week, using a personally adapted version of Captain Wentworth’s letter from the end of the book. It was perfect.

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    Oh, this makes me want to reread Persuasion (which I last read in grad school, in a seminar on Jane Austen and the New Woman, on a page-turning, desperate tear that rivals the urgency with which I have EVER read anything else). I reread Sense and Sensibility last year (it had been the first Austen novel I ever read, when I was 13 or 14), and it was astonishing.

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    Jessica says:

    @Samantha:

    I also just want to add that my boyfriend proposed last week, using a personally adapted version of Captain Wentworth’s letter from the end of the book. It was perfect.

    Whoa. Whoa. Can I marry him too? Wow.

    @Ariel/Sycorax Pine: You know, I think this one … you really have to be a mature reader to appreciate it. It’s virtues are less flashy than those of P&P and S&S. At least, that’s how it seems to me.

    @Liz:

    Lady Russell: I think that I think she’s there, in part, to remind us that being “elegant” is no excuse for harboring the same kind of prejudice that Sir Walter does. Lady Russell likes position, too. She expresses that more elegantly and tastefully, but the result is in some ways the same.

    Thanks for this. I think I would need to reread Persuasion, focusing very closely on this character, to really figure it out.

    Agreed on publicness being not right for time period or characters.

    @Victoria Janssen: Awesome! thank you!

    @Jorrie Spencer:

    The way the 2007 version was completely lacking in humor seemed wrong to me

    This seems right to me, although I confess I found little humor in Persuasion myself.

    @Janice: I thought Amanda Root was perfect.

    @CupK8:

    The 2007 cast seems a bit young to me.

    I haven’t seen it either, just some You Tube clips. But your comments make a lot of sense to me. Wentworth in particular looks too … untried or something.

    @Kristen:

    It does, however, boggle my mind that someone said the characters were only sympathetic if you were living in the same exact time period with a great amount of wealth.

    I know. I thought that review was erm … not insightful.

    @Kaetrin:

    Wentworth just looked wrong – too young and, just… wrong!

    Agreed, although I do not find Hinds even remotely attractive, personally.

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