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		<title>By: Lynne Connolly</title>
		<link>http://www.readreactreview.com/2009/11/16/monday-morning-stepback-4/#comment-6287</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5443&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jessica&lt;/a&gt;: 
Google brought me here. I&#039;m glad you liked the post. I&#039;m on at The Good, The Bad and The Unread as LynneC. I suppose I should add my banner or something to my posts, but I blog there because I love doing it. I started when Syb asked me if I wanted to do some posts on Romantic Times Convention, and I just stayed on. I review mainly HMB categories and do the occasional comment column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-5443" rel="nofollow">Jessica</a>:<br />
Google brought me here. I&#8217;m glad you liked the post. I&#8217;m on at The Good, The Bad and The Unread as LynneC. I suppose I should add my banner or something to my posts, but I blog there because I love doing it. I started when Syb asked me if I wanted to do some posts on Romantic Times Convention, and I just stayed on. I review mainly HMB categories and do the occasional comment column.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5458&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Meri&lt;/a&gt;: Meri, I am sure you are right. Perhaps what my rabbi meant -- when he was warning me on my conversion -- was that I may not be considered &quot;Jewish&quot; in Israel.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5466&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Janine&lt;/a&gt;: Of course, it&#039;s the competition with Christmas. But as someone with kids who do not celebrate Christmas, I am happy for it -- it eases their sense of oddness, living as we do in a community where they have been the only Jewish children in their grades through their school years.

But Purim raises so many possibilities -- cross dressing, maybe? and Passover ... talk about hiding the Afikomen. Rwarrrrr.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5450&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sherry Thomas&lt;/a&gt;: Sherry, I like that analogy, and I see Maili has answered your question (thanks Maili!). Yes, I believe that was the problem, that the state could support religious freedom but not at the cost of supporting ethnic discrimination.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5445&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dick&lt;/a&gt;: Well, there seems to be a lot of romance fiction with at least &quot;light&quot; BDSM, whether m/f or m/m, so I am not sure your view that this disqualifies it from the romance genre (if I understood your comment) is widely shared. I guess it goes to the question of what counts as romantic, and I see so much disagreement there among readers on so many issues (infidelity, for example). 

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5444&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Janet W&lt;/a&gt;: Thanks so much for the links!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-5458" rel="nofollow">Meri</a>: Meri, I am sure you are right. Perhaps what my rabbi meant &#8212; when he was warning me on my conversion &#8212; was that I may not be considered &#8220;Jewish&#8221; in Israel.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-5466" rel="nofollow">Janine</a>: Of course, it&#8217;s the competition with Christmas. But as someone with kids who do not celebrate Christmas, I am happy for it &#8212; it eases their sense of oddness, living as we do in a community where they have been the only Jewish children in their grades through their school years.</p>
<p>But Purim raises so many possibilities &#8212; cross dressing, maybe? and Passover &#8230; talk about hiding the Afikomen. Rwarrrrr.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-5450" rel="nofollow">Sherry Thomas</a>: Sherry, I like that analogy, and I see Maili has answered your question (thanks Maili!). Yes, I believe that was the problem, that the state could support religious freedom but not at the cost of supporting ethnic discrimination.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-5445" rel="nofollow">dick</a>: Well, there seems to be a lot of romance fiction with at least &#8220;light&#8221; BDSM, whether m/f or m/m, so I am not sure your view that this disqualifies it from the romance genre (if I understood your comment) is widely shared. I guess it goes to the question of what counts as romantic, and I see so much disagreement there among readers on so many issues (infidelity, for example). </p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-5444" rel="nofollow">Janet W</a>: Thanks so much for the links!</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Personally, I think Judaism is a religion, an ethnicity, and a culture, though not necessarily all of them for all Jews.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You took the words right out of my mouth, Meri.

Re. Hanukkah, I think the reason such a minor holiday gets so much more attention in proportion to Jewish holidays that are much more important is that it runs more or less concurrently with Christmas.  Non-Jews sometimes mistake it for having Christmas-like significance to us Jews, no doubt in part because of the present-giving tradition that was not part of the holiday originally but has evolved here in the U.S. (and perhaps in other Christian countries?)

Am I the only one who would like to see Passover get some play in a book?  That is quite possibly my favorite holiday.  Although if the book were to be set in Israel, I would be tempted by the costumes of Purim or (even better IMO) the bonfires of Lag BaOmer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Personally, I think Judaism is a religion, an ethnicity, and a culture, though not necessarily all of them for all Jews.</p></blockquote>
<p>You took the words right out of my mouth, Meri.</p>
<p>Re. Hanukkah, I think the reason such a minor holiday gets so much more attention in proportion to Jewish holidays that are much more important is that it runs more or less concurrently with Christmas.  Non-Jews sometimes mistake it for having Christmas-like significance to us Jews, no doubt in part because of the present-giving tradition that was not part of the holiday originally but has evolved here in the U.S. (and perhaps in other Christian countries?)</p>
<p>Am I the only one who would like to see Passover get some play in a book?  That is quite possibly my favorite holiday.  Although if the book were to be set in Israel, I would be tempted by the costumes of Purim or (even better IMO) the bonfires of Lag BaOmer.</p>
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		<title>By: Maili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sherry Thomas
&lt;blockquote&gt;I looked up the JFS, and it receives state funds. What I would like to know, Jessica, or any lawyers present, is that do you think the decision would have been different if this was a completely private school?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it wouldn&#039;t. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think becoming a Christian or a Buddhist or a Muslim is like becoming an American. A pretty commonplace procedure.

Whereas becoming a Jew is more like becoming Chinese.
No matter how much you know about Chinese art, history, food, language, etc., you will always be a bit of a curiosity if you aren’t born into it..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pfft. &#039;A bit of a curiosity&#039; is surely the politest way of putting it. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sherry Thomas</p>
<blockquote><p>I looked up the JFS, and it receives state funds. What I would like to know, Jessica, or any lawyers present, is that do you think the decision would have been different if this was a completely private school?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it wouldn&#8217;t. </p>
<blockquote><p>I think becoming a Christian or a Buddhist or a Muslim is like becoming an American. A pretty commonplace procedure.</p>
<p>Whereas becoming a Jew is more like becoming Chinese.<br />
No matter how much you know about Chinese art, history, food, language, etc., you will always be a bit of a curiosity if you aren’t born into it..</p></blockquote>
<p>Pfft. &#8216;A bit of a curiosity&#8217; is surely the politest way of putting it. <img src='http://www.readreactreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Meri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessica, are you certain that the law of return doesn&#039;t apply to you and your children? I&#039;m guessing this isn&#039;t something you&#039;re actively considering, but I&#039;m fairly certain you&#039;re all welcome to join us here... For one thing, while non-orthodox conversions done &lt;em&gt;in Israel&lt;/em&gt; aren&#039;t recognized, if you converted outside of Israel you should be fine even if it was reform. And since you are married to a Jewish person and your kids have a Jewish father, no problem on that count, either. Here&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.knesset.gov.il/laws/special/eng/return.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;full text&lt;/a&gt; of the law on the Knesset website. So you can send your kids over to do Birthright when they&#039;re older, if you want. I hear it&#039;s great fun. And it could be a good setup for a romance novel (-:

Personally, I think Judaism is a religion, an ethnicity, and a culture, though not necessarily all of them for all Jews. It&#039;s very complicated.

Hannukah is too minor a holiday to be interesting. Yom Kippur is too holy for anyone who&#039;s really religious, though the time between Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur might work. Purim could be work, it&#039;s a fun holiday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica, are you certain that the law of return doesn&#8217;t apply to you and your children? I&#8217;m guessing this isn&#8217;t something you&#8217;re actively considering, but I&#8217;m fairly certain you&#8217;re all welcome to join us here&#8230; For one thing, while non-orthodox conversions done <em>in Israel</em> aren&#8217;t recognized, if you converted outside of Israel you should be fine even if it was reform. And since you are married to a Jewish person and your kids have a Jewish father, no problem on that count, either. Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.knesset.gov.il/laws/special/eng/return.htm" rel="nofollow">full text</a> of the law on the Knesset website. So you can send your kids over to do Birthright when they&#8217;re older, if you want. I hear it&#8217;s great fun. And it could be a good setup for a romance novel (-:</p>
<p>Personally, I think Judaism is a religion, an ethnicity, and a culture, though not necessarily all of them for all Jews. It&#8217;s very complicated.</p>
<p>Hannukah is too minor a holiday to be interesting. Yom Kippur is too holy for anyone who&#8217;s really religious, though the time between Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur might work. Purim could be work, it&#8217;s a fun holiday.</p>
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		<title>By: Marianne McA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianne McA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sherry - not in any way a lawyer, but I can&#039;t see how a public (aka private) school could be exempt from the race relations act. 
Any faith school is allowed, I think, to discriminate on the basis of faith to a certain extent: but no school would be allowed to discriminate on grounds of race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sherry &#8211; not in any way a lawyer, but I can&#8217;t see how a public (aka private) school could be exempt from the race relations act.<br />
Any faith school is allowed, I think, to discriminate on the basis of faith to a certain extent: but no school would be allowed to discriminate on grounds of race.</p>
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		<title>By: Reva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m incredibly tickled by the idea of a Yom Kippur romance.  In college, I had a Rabbi who actually did the traditional Shabbat Tshuvah sermon about all of the things that are forbiden on Yom Kippur.  In addition to those you learn growing up as an American Reform Jew (eating, drinking, wearing leather) this list includes bathing and marital relations.  We were in college, though, so marital relations weren&#039;t an issue and non-marital relations weren&#039;t specifically forbidden for Yom Kippur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m incredibly tickled by the idea of a Yom Kippur romance.  In college, I had a Rabbi who actually did the traditional Shabbat Tshuvah sermon about all of the things that are forbiden on Yom Kippur.  In addition to those you learn growing up as an American Reform Jew (eating, drinking, wearing leather) this list includes bathing and marital relations.  We were in college, though, so marital relations weren&#8217;t an issue and non-marital relations weren&#8217;t specifically forbidden for Yom Kippur.</p>
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		<title>By: azteclady</title>
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		<dc:creator>azteclady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5449&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jessica&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;Be careful what you wish for...&quot; 

(thank you)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-5449" rel="nofollow">Jessica</a>: &#8220;Be careful what you wish for&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>(thank you)</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry Thomas</title>
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		<description>I think becoming a Christian or a Buddhist or a Muslim is like becoming an American.  A pretty commonplace procedure.

Whereas becoming a Jew is more like becoming Chinese.  
No matter how much you know about Chinese art, history, food, language, etc., you will always be a bit of a curiosity if you aren&#039;t born into it.

I looked up the JFS, and it receives state funds.  What I would like to know, Jessica, or any lawyers present, is that do you think the decision would have been different if this was a completely private school?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think becoming a Christian or a Buddhist or a Muslim is like becoming an American.  A pretty commonplace procedure.</p>
<p>Whereas becoming a Jew is more like becoming Chinese.<br />
No matter how much you know about Chinese art, history, food, language, etc., you will always be a bit of a curiosity if you aren&#8217;t born into it.</p>
<p>I looked up the JFS, and it receives state funds.  What I would like to know, Jessica, or any lawyers present, is that do you think the decision would have been different if this was a completely private school?</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>ok, I will. Watch for my email.</p>
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