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	<title>Comments on: Polyamory, Menage, Erotic Romance, and Culture</title>
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		<title>By: JDKwhat?</title>
		<link>http://www.readreactreview.com/2009/06/18/polyamory-menage-erotic-romance-and-culture/#comment-13321</link>
		<dc:creator>JDKwhat?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone mentioned Laurell K Hamilton&#039;s Anita Blake Vampire Hunter or Meredeth Grey series? In both she explores &quot;reverse harem&quot; themes - A MMMMMMM....F relationships- I think at one point both Anita and Meredith have about ten lovers each, who they don&#039;t share with any other females. 

The thing I like about her romances (Aside from the paranormal romance) is that she actuallys gets into the relationship side of a polyamorous relationship instead of just the threesome-sex qualities (though she does have a lot of those). Jealousy, possesiveness, liking one person over the others and the dynamics of it... LKH addresses a lot of these ideas in her stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone mentioned Laurell K Hamilton&#8217;s Anita Blake Vampire Hunter or Meredeth Grey series? In both she explores &#8220;reverse harem&#8221; themes &#8211; A MMMMMMM&#8230;.F relationships- I think at one point both Anita and Meredith have about ten lovers each, who they don&#8217;t share with any other females. </p>
<p>The thing I like about her romances (Aside from the paranormal romance) is that she actuallys gets into the relationship side of a polyamorous relationship instead of just the threesome-sex qualities (though she does have a lot of those). Jealousy, possesiveness, liking one person over the others and the dynamics of it&#8230; LKH addresses a lot of these ideas in her stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 18:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3074&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jane&lt;/a&gt;: 
Jane wrote: &quot;I joked with a friend the other day that women barely tolerate their one husband and his physical demands let alone two or three husbands. I’ve not actually worked out in my mind why this fantasy is so interesting/appealing?&quot;

Well, if the relationship is a true triangle, and the woman feels that she&#039;s does not have the sex drive of a guy, it&#039;s actually the &lt;em&gt;perfect&lt;/em&gt; solution. She can go and read a book and let her boyfriends have it out. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-3074" rel="nofollow">Jane</a>:<br />
Jane wrote: &#8220;I joked with a friend the other day that women barely tolerate their one husband and his physical demands let alone two or three husbands. I’ve not actually worked out in my mind why this fantasy is so interesting/appealing?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, if the relationship is a true triangle, and the woman feels that she&#8217;s does not have the sex drive of a guy, it&#8217;s actually the <em>perfect</em> solution. She can go and read a book and let her boyfriends have it out. =)</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 02:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent topic. From a strictly storytelling perspective, stories about three people being in love together are really just three love stories in one. The challenge is convincing the audience that it makes sense, considering social, political, economic, and religious resistances; How do I tell my mother that I&#039;m in love with two people? How are we going to manage our household with three people? Will the government take our children away? Do we have to hide ourselves from everyone else? Is it all worth it? Turn to &quot;Big Love,&quot; for a television show that confronts all of that stuff.

Polyamory is just &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; foreign. It&#039;s not even recognized by the spell check. Most of us were not raised with good models in monogamous marriages, so we can barely imagine a long term poly relationship working. Those, like Minx, want to see more good examples available, so that it&#039;s a real choice and not something that seems too ALIEN to consider. It doesn&#039;t have to be a fantasy--just good storytelling that causes the audience to invest in the characters and see from their eyes long enough to want the same thing. It&#039;s coming, even if I have to write it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent topic. From a strictly storytelling perspective, stories about three people being in love together are really just three love stories in one. The challenge is convincing the audience that it makes sense, considering social, political, economic, and religious resistances; How do I tell my mother that I&#8217;m in love with two people? How are we going to manage our household with three people? Will the government take our children away? Do we have to hide ourselves from everyone else? Is it all worth it? Turn to &#8220;Big Love,&#8221; for a television show that confronts all of that stuff.</p>
<p>Polyamory is just <em>really</em> foreign. It&#8217;s not even recognized by the spell check. Most of us were not raised with good models in monogamous marriages, so we can barely imagine a long term poly relationship working. Those, like Minx, want to see more good examples available, so that it&#8217;s a real choice and not something that seems too ALIEN to consider. It doesn&#8217;t have to be a fantasy&#8211;just good storytelling that causes the audience to invest in the characters and see from their eyes long enough to want the same thing. It&#8217;s coming, even if I have to write it.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie Acres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie Acres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to find more and more blogs covering polyamory and ménage as well as erotic romance. It&#039;s interesting to discover what bloggers and readers want and expect in their romance books. 

Natalie Acres</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to find more and more blogs covering polyamory and ménage as well as erotic romance. It&#8217;s interesting to discover what bloggers and readers want and expect in their romance books. </p>
<p>Natalie Acres</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, comments should not be closed. for some reason, whenever I update (edit) a post, comments close automatically, unless I manually re-check the open comments box. I often forget. Opening them now, and sorry for the mixup! thanks for letting me know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, comments should not be closed. for some reason, whenever I update (edit) a post, comments close automatically, unless I manually re-check the open comments box. I often forget. Opening them now, and sorry for the mixup! thanks for letting me know!</p>
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		<title>By: RfP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RfP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been hanging around the Jo Beverley review clearing my throat.  Whining and rattling the screen commences now.  Next up: throwing small objects.

Comments are closed?  On one of my favorite authors?  This doesn&#039;t seem like you.  There must be a trick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been hanging around the Jo Beverley review clearing my throat.  Whining and rattling the screen commences now.  Next up: throwing small objects.</p>
<p>Comments are closed?  On one of my favorite authors?  This doesn&#8217;t seem like you.  There must be a trick.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Sherry Thomas&lt;/b&gt;:
Looking at polygamy through a historical lens, as a feminist, things look very bad indeed. 

But theoretically, I am no longer sure why we restrict marriage to two people. Or rather, I am not sure if we still have a strong enough social interest in encouraging certain familial units to incentivize them via the institution of marriage.

As for the RWA definition, I sense that the RWA is waning in influence somewhat like the AMA. But I would think its definition is still one important indicator of what the romance community defines as &quot;romance&quot; novel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Sherry Thomas</b>:<br />
Looking at polygamy through a historical lens, as a feminist, things look very bad indeed. </p>
<p>But theoretically, I am no longer sure why we restrict marriage to two people. Or rather, I am not sure if we still have a strong enough social interest in encouraging certain familial units to incentivize them via the institution of marriage.</p>
<p>As for the RWA definition, I sense that the RWA is waning in influence somewhat like the AMA. But I would think its definition is still one important indicator of what the romance community defines as &#8220;romance&#8221; novel.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could care less what RWA defines as romance.

But polyamory is definitely not a fantasy for me.

It comes largely from my cultural background.  Polygamy was the standard practice in China up until 1949 and I&#039;ve always thought it sucked, just absolutely sucked.  Raising the Red Lantern, anyone?

I don&#039;t see how flipping it around--i.e., one woman, more than one man--makes it any better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could care less what RWA defines as romance.</p>
<p>But polyamory is definitely not a fantasy for me.</p>
<p>It comes largely from my cultural background.  Polygamy was the standard practice in China up until 1949 and I&#8217;ve always thought it sucked, just absolutely sucked.  Raising the Red Lantern, anyone?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how flipping it around&#8211;i.e., one woman, more than one man&#8211;makes it any better.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ daisy&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;blockquote&gt;I fail to see how a HEA is the standard for romance novels. Just because a love story ends, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a romance. Romeo and Juliet, Scarlett and Rhett, Tristian and Isolde, Buffy and Angel, Clark Gable and Carole Lombard - no HEA, but romances all.&lt;/blockquote&gt; The happy ending is expected for romance genre books. None of the books you named are in the genre, although they&#039;re often talked about as romance stories (in the non-genre sense). There are many romance genre readers (myself included) who&#039;d strongly argue that there&#039;s nothing romantic at all about tragic endings, and mislabeling a non-HEA book as romance genre will often cause quite a ruckus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ daisy</b>:<br />
<blockquote>I fail to see how a HEA is the standard for romance novels. Just because a love story ends, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a romance. Romeo and Juliet, Scarlett and Rhett, Tristian and Isolde, Buffy and Angel, Clark Gable and Carole Lombard &#8211; no HEA, but romances all.</p></blockquote>
<p> The happy ending is expected for romance genre books. None of the books you named are in the genre, although they&#8217;re often talked about as romance stories (in the non-genre sense). There are many romance genre readers (myself included) who&#8217;d strongly argue that there&#8217;s nothing romantic at all about tragic endings, and mislabeling a non-HEA book as romance genre will often cause quite a ruckus.</p>
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		<title>By: ReacherFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReacherFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I found interesting about Lauren Dane&#039;s observation is something that I&#039;ve felt but not actively recognized.  Contemporary menage is harder for me to believe than paranormal/futuristic.  On a subliminal basis I automatically impose constraints on contemporaries that I don&#039;t on the other formats.  It&#039;s just easier for me to indulge the fantasy part.  Perhaps that&#039;s why my favorites list above had all of the menage books in futuristic or paranormal/urban fantasy genres.  I&#039;m am either less critical, or the overall story just makes more sense within the alternate context - for me.

I&#039;ve noticed on various forums, including Amazon&#039;s Erotic Romance forum, that there are two distinct populations - one that prefers the contemporary menage with it&#039;s angsty storylines, and the futuristic/paranormal/urban fantasy group. A point worth pondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I found interesting about Lauren Dane&#8217;s observation is something that I&#8217;ve felt but not actively recognized.  Contemporary menage is harder for me to believe than paranormal/futuristic.  On a subliminal basis I automatically impose constraints on contemporaries that I don&#8217;t on the other formats.  It&#8217;s just easier for me to indulge the fantasy part.  Perhaps that&#8217;s why my favorites list above had all of the menage books in futuristic or paranormal/urban fantasy genres.  I&#8217;m am either less critical, or the overall story just makes more sense within the alternate context &#8211; for me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed on various forums, including Amazon&#8217;s Erotic Romance forum, that there are two distinct populations &#8211; one that prefers the contemporary menage with it&#8217;s angsty storylines, and the futuristic/paranormal/urban fantasy group. A point worth pondering.</p>
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