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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RfP&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d forgotten that. Lucy Monroe’s Blackmailed Into Marriage (the vaginismus story) was one of the romances discussed in a 2007 Macleans article. Which prompted some discussion on sexual health in romances and some assertions that such topics are more common in romance than other literature :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, thank you for that link! 

&lt;b&gt;@ Catherine&lt;/b&gt;:
thank you Catherine!

&lt;b&gt;ReacherFan&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Day one of my period was always a gory murder mystery or one of those brainless thrillers where the hero is never wrong about who needs to be killed and we have a high body count of evil doers to keep my bloodlust at bay. I usually reserved books about serial killers or other suitably gruesome murders for ‘those’ days. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The symbolism! And yes, the new math is at fault for most social ills.


&lt;b&gt;Kaetrin&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh ewwwww Jessica! Thanks so much (not!) for the mental images of “tampon sucking”. Oh gross!

As for “Endless Love” - does this have anything to do with the Brooke Shields/Christopher Atkins movie in the 80’s?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought it was like cooties -- if I gave the image to you, my brain would be wiped clean of it.

But yes, that&#039;s the movie based on the well reviewed book of the same name by Scott Spencer, which made a huge impression on me. It was told from David&#039;s perspective. Today, when I realize Jade was 15 and David only 17, I can&#039;t believe some of those sex scenes.


&lt;b&gt;JennyME&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I can’t think of a single romance I’ve read in which the period has an emotional affect on the heroine, although several come to mind when the main character is made weepy and emotional during a pregnancy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks Jenny! And I agree with your sense of things.

&lt;b&gt;EAP&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Good in some ways, terrifying in others. I learned quickly to always have on hand a spare hot water bottle and enough ibuprofen to knock out a horse.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you for the discussion of Improper English! And I just learned, having been for my annual checkup (and mammogram, ugh), that the two Advils I take are considered near-placebo doses. I said, &quot;But that&#039;s the recommended dosage on the label!&quot; and my doc looked at me like I was daft. I was told to take at least 3 and 4 if I really needed it. Who knew?

&lt;b&gt;Tumperkin&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s true, however, that I’ve read very few in which The Curse is shown in all its dreadful splendour. And that’s fine with me. It’s a bore in real life and I’ve no wish to read about it in fiction -unless it’s advancing the story.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Dreadful splendour&quot;, good one. I think that&#039;s where I come down on the issue, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RfP</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’d forgotten that. Lucy Monroe’s Blackmailed Into Marriage (the vaginismus story) was one of the romances discussed in a 2007 Macleans article. Which prompted some discussion on sexual health in romances and some assertions that such topics are more common in romance than other literature <img src='http://www.readreactreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, thank you for that link! </p>
<p><b>@ Catherine</b>:<br />
thank you Catherine!</p>
<p><b>ReacherFan</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Day one of my period was always a gory murder mystery or one of those brainless thrillers where the hero is never wrong about who needs to be killed and we have a high body count of evil doers to keep my bloodlust at bay. I usually reserved books about serial killers or other suitably gruesome murders for ‘those’ days. </p></blockquote>
<p>The symbolism! And yes, the new math is at fault for most social ills.</p>
<p><b>Kaetrin</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Oh ewwwww Jessica! Thanks so much (not!) for the mental images of “tampon sucking”. Oh gross!</p>
<p>As for “Endless Love” &#8211; does this have anything to do with the Brooke Shields/Christopher Atkins movie in the 80’s?</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought it was like cooties &#8212; if I gave the image to you, my brain would be wiped clean of it.</p>
<p>But yes, that&#8217;s the movie based on the well reviewed book of the same name by Scott Spencer, which made a huge impression on me. It was told from David&#8217;s perspective. Today, when I realize Jade was 15 and David only 17, I can&#8217;t believe some of those sex scenes.</p>
<p><b>JennyME</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I can’t think of a single romance I’ve read in which the period has an emotional affect on the heroine, although several come to mind when the main character is made weepy and emotional during a pregnancy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks Jenny! And I agree with your sense of things.</p>
<p><b>EAP</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Good in some ways, terrifying in others. I learned quickly to always have on hand a spare hot water bottle and enough ibuprofen to knock out a horse.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you for the discussion of Improper English! And I just learned, having been for my annual checkup (and mammogram, ugh), that the two Advils I take are considered near-placebo doses. I said, &#8220;But that&#8217;s the recommended dosage on the label!&#8221; and my doc looked at me like I was daft. I was told to take at least 3 and 4 if I really needed it. Who knew?</p>
<p><b>Tumperkin</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s true, however, that I’ve read very few in which The Curse is shown in all its dreadful splendour. And that’s fine with me. It’s a bore in real life and I’ve no wish to read about it in fiction -unless it’s advancing the story.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Dreadful splendour&#8221;, good one. I think that&#8217;s where I come down on the issue, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Tumperkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tumperkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ve read quite a few historicals in which there are passing references to the heroine avoiding the marriage bed because of having her &#039;courses&#039;.  Most recently in Secrets of Surrender by Madeline Hunter.  It&#039;s true, however, that I&#039;ve read very few in which The Curse is shown in all its dreadful splendour.  And that&#039;s fine with me.  It&#039;s a bore in real life and I&#039;ve no wish to read about it in fiction -unless it&#039;s advancing the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve read quite a few historicals in which there are passing references to the heroine avoiding the marriage bed because of having her &#8216;courses&#8217;.  Most recently in Secrets of Surrender by Madeline Hunter.  It&#8217;s true, however, that I&#8217;ve read very few in which The Curse is shown in all its dreadful splendour.  And that&#8217;s fine with me.  It&#8217;s a bore in real life and I&#8217;ve no wish to read about it in fiction -unless it&#8217;s advancing the story.</p>
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		<title>By: EAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>EAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie MacAlister&#039;s &quot;Improper English&quot; has a bunch of scenes towards the end that are connected with the fact that the heroine (Alix) has her period. Since this happens smack in the middle of the Big not-really-Mis-but-definite-bump-in-the-road-to-lurrve, I&#039;m not sure how much of her crankiness, misery and tendancy to eat chocolate and ice cream were emotional, how much were hormonal, and how much were heroinal (she&#039;s one of those &quot;wacky, sassy&quot; heroines) but she had my complete understanding either way.

The hero doesn&#039;t get out the heating pad/hot water bottle, but he does trot out the line, &quot;I don&#039;t mind if you don&#039;t&quot;. *ahem* 

Before that statement leads to any serious emotional scarring, I should quickly add that the scene that follows didn&#039;t take me into the same traumatic period pr0n territory as the links above - although the hero did manage to get the heroine&#039;s endorphines to kick in quite nicely.

Whether it fits into the category where periods are mentioned in the context of not being pregnant, or even whether the period drives the plot could be debated. I&#039;d say at least some of her behaviour in the days before could be attributed to PMT, but the book doesn&#039;t state this, and it&#039;s hard to call, given the &quot;wacky, sassy&quot; tendancies of the average KMcA heroine.

BTW, I remember in this much detail because I just finished reading this book last night. Synchronicity is indeed a wonderful thing. ;-)Speaking of which, regarding Laura V&#039;s theory - I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s any scientific explanation for it, but whenever I&#039;ve lived with menstruating women for a while (about 2-3 months usually), it does seem that we all begin to  start closer and closer together (except for women who are on the pill). Good in some ways, terrifying in others. I learned quickly to always have on hand a spare hot water bottle and enough ibuprofen to knock out a horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie MacAlister&#8217;s &#8220;Improper English&#8221; has a bunch of scenes towards the end that are connected with the fact that the heroine (Alix) has her period. Since this happens smack in the middle of the Big not-really-Mis-but-definite-bump-in-the-road-to-lurrve, I&#8217;m not sure how much of her crankiness, misery and tendancy to eat chocolate and ice cream were emotional, how much were hormonal, and how much were heroinal (she&#8217;s one of those &#8220;wacky, sassy&#8221; heroines) but she had my complete understanding either way.</p>
<p>The hero doesn&#8217;t get out the heating pad/hot water bottle, but he does trot out the line, &#8220;I don&#8217;t mind if you don&#8217;t&#8221;. *ahem* </p>
<p>Before that statement leads to any serious emotional scarring, I should quickly add that the scene that follows didn&#8217;t take me into the same traumatic period pr0n territory as the links above &#8211; although the hero did manage to get the heroine&#8217;s endorphines to kick in quite nicely.</p>
<p>Whether it fits into the category where periods are mentioned in the context of not being pregnant, or even whether the period drives the plot could be debated. I&#8217;d say at least some of her behaviour in the days before could be attributed to PMT, but the book doesn&#8217;t state this, and it&#8217;s hard to call, given the &#8220;wacky, sassy&#8221; tendancies of the average KMcA heroine.</p>
<p>BTW, I remember in this much detail because I just finished reading this book last night. Synchronicity is indeed a wonderful thing. <img src='http://www.readreactreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Speaking of which, regarding Laura V&#8217;s theory &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s any scientific explanation for it, but whenever I&#8217;ve lived with menstruating women for a while (about 2-3 months usually), it does seem that we all begin to  start closer and closer together (except for women who are on the pill). Good in some ways, terrifying in others. I learned quickly to always have on hand a spare hot water bottle and enough ibuprofen to knock out a horse.</p>
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		<title>By: Margie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to menopause in romance, I remember in All Shook Up by Susan Anderson the heroine&#039;s mother/aunt (?) is going through menopause and has a lot of hot flashes. She doesn&#039;t make a big deal out of it, I don&#039;t think...in any case, it&#039;s a good book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to menopause in romance, I remember in All Shook Up by Susan Anderson the heroine&#8217;s mother/aunt (?) is going through menopause and has a lot of hot flashes. She doesn&#8217;t make a big deal out of it, I don&#8217;t think&#8230;in any case, it&#8217;s a good book.</p>
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		<title>By: JennyME</title>
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		<dc:creator>JennyME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a reference in See Jane Score, by Rachel Gibson. The heroine gets her period and it turns out to be a fairly relevant plot point--the hero brings her some M&amp;M&#039;s and a heating pad and it shows that their relationship is getting more intimate because he spends the night even though she&#039;s not in the mood for sex. 

I seem to recall it being a plot point in a few older historicals, but I can&#039;t remember titles. Something along the lines of &quot;Don&#039;t bother knocking on the door between our bedrooms tonight; I&#039;m indisposed&quot; and the heroine feeling she&#039;d bought herself a few days&#039; respite from the dreaded husband. 

I can&#039;t think of a single romance I&#039;ve read in which the period has an emotional affect on the heroine, although several come to mind when the main character is made weepy and emotional during a pregnancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a reference in See Jane Score, by Rachel Gibson. The heroine gets her period and it turns out to be a fairly relevant plot point&#8211;the hero brings her some M&amp;M&#8217;s and a heating pad and it shows that their relationship is getting more intimate because he spends the night even though she&#8217;s not in the mood for sex. </p>
<p>I seem to recall it being a plot point in a few older historicals, but I can&#8217;t remember titles. Something along the lines of &#8220;Don&#8217;t bother knocking on the door between our bedrooms tonight; I&#8217;m indisposed&#8221; and the heroine feeling she&#8217;d bought herself a few days&#8217; respite from the dreaded husband. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of a single romance I&#8217;ve read in which the period has an emotional affect on the heroine, although several come to mind when the main character is made weepy and emotional during a pregnancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaetrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaetrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ewwwww Jessica!  Thanks so much (not!) for the mental images of &quot;tampon sucking&quot;.  Oh gross!

As for &quot;Endless Love&quot; - does this have anything to do with the Brooke Shields/Christopher Atkins movie in the 80&#039;s?

@ RfP - I really enjoyed the Blackmailed into Marriage story by Lucy Monroe too actually.  (I don&#039;t think her full length novels are as good but I usually pick up her categories).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh ewwwww Jessica!  Thanks so much (not!) for the mental images of &#8220;tampon sucking&#8221;.  Oh gross!</p>
<p>As for &#8220;Endless Love&#8221; &#8211; does this have anything to do with the Brooke Shields/Christopher Atkins movie in the 80&#8217;s?</p>
<p>@ RfP &#8211; I really enjoyed the Blackmailed into Marriage story by Lucy Monroe too actually.  (I don&#8217;t think her full length novels are as good but I usually pick up her categories).</p>
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		<title>By: ReacherFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReacherFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Day one of my period was always a gory murder mystery or one of those brainless thrillers where the hero is never wrong about who needs to be killed and we have a high body count of evil doers to keep my bloodlust at bay.  I usually reserved books about serial killers or other suitably gruesome murders for &#039;those&#039; days.  I always felt it helped keep the guys who worked for me safe. 

The Mr Perfect scenes are great. :-)  Especially when she gets caught in the lie.

I must admit, I commented on several book reviews about intelligent males being unable to count to 28 and realize when they have not be &#039;inconvenienced&#039; by the arrival of the woman&#039;s period.  I noticed in the old Amanda Quick books, the hero often knew his wife was preggers before she did by the changes in her body - and the fact that those males apparently still could count to 28.  Must be the fault of all that new math stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day one of my period was always a gory murder mystery or one of those brainless thrillers where the hero is never wrong about who needs to be killed and we have a high body count of evil doers to keep my bloodlust at bay.  I usually reserved books about serial killers or other suitably gruesome murders for &#8216;those&#8217; days.  I always felt it helped keep the guys who worked for me safe. </p>
<p>The Mr Perfect scenes are great. <img src='http://www.readreactreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Especially when she gets caught in the lie.</p>
<p>I must admit, I commented on several book reviews about intelligent males being unable to count to 28 and realize when they have not be &#8216;inconvenienced&#8217; by the arrival of the woman&#8217;s period.  I noticed in the old Amanda Quick books, the hero often knew his wife was preggers before she did by the changes in her body &#8211; and the fact that those males apparently still could count to 28.  Must be the fault of all that new math stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow, I am surprised to see of in a Regency! Thanks for the reference. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, I think the rags had already been washed and were drying by the fire when they were referred to or shown.  But still, it was daring.  &lt;i&gt;Dedication&lt;/i&gt; was surprising for a regency in a number of ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wow, I am surprised to see of in a Regency! Thanks for the reference. </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, I think the rags had already been washed and were drying by the fire when they were referred to or shown.  But still, it was daring.  <i>Dedication</i> was surprising for a regency in a number of ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only books off the top of my head that I can think of are:

The Gift by Julie Garwood

Mr. Perfect by Linda Howard (she was lying to the hero about it though)

Heart of Fire by Linda Howard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only books off the top of my head that I can think of are:</p>
<p>The Gift by Julie Garwood</p>
<p>Mr. Perfect by Linda Howard (she was lying to the hero about it though)</p>
<p>Heart of Fire by Linda Howard</p>
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		<title>By: RfP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RfP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Kaetrin&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;One of Lucy Monroe’s category romances&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;d forgotten that.  Lucy Monroe&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Blackmailed Into Marriage&lt;/i&gt; (the vaginismus story) was one of the romances discussed in a 2007 Macleans article.  Which prompted some discussion on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.readforpleasure.com/2007/09/sexual-health-and-romance-novels.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sexual health in romances&lt;/a&gt; and some assertions that such topics are more common in romance than other literature :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Kaetrin</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>One of Lucy Monroe’s category romances</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d forgotten that.  Lucy Monroe&#8217;s <i>Blackmailed Into Marriage</i> (the vaginismus story) was one of the romances discussed in a 2007 Macleans article.  Which prompted some discussion on <a href="http://www.readforpleasure.com/2007/09/sexual-health-and-romance-novels.html" rel="nofollow">sexual health in romances</a> and some assertions that such topics are more common in romance than other literature <img src='http://www.readreactreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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