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	<title>Comments on: Review: The Duchess, Her Maid, The Groom, and Their Lover, by Victoria Janssen</title>
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		<title>By: Book Review: The Duchess et al &#124; Moriah Jovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Book Review: The Duchess et al &#124; Moriah Jovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 06:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] along. Jessica, over at Racy Romance Reviews, reviewed this and while her review wasn&#8217;t necessarily favorable, it was academic (&#8217;cause she R 1) and [...]</description>
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<p>[...] along. Jessica, over at Racy Romance Reviews, reviewed this and while her review wasn&#8217;t necessarily favorable, it was academic (&#8217;cause she R 1) and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review! I also am not particularly a reader of erotica but really loved both the title and the cover of this one (having first seen it on your blog, actually.) My entire rundown of erotica comes from the Marquis de Sade (does that count?) and a half-reading of Juliette, which I found hilarious in its execution (sex! politics! theology! sex! philosophy! sex! repeat!) If I ever pick up erotica, though, it would probably be this one judging entirely by the cover - shallow of me, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review! I also am not particularly a reader of erotica but really loved both the title and the cover of this one (having first seen it on your blog, actually.) My entire rundown of erotica comes from the Marquis de Sade (does that count?) and a half-reading of Juliette, which I found hilarious in its execution (sex! politics! theology! sex! philosophy! sex! repeat!) If I ever pick up erotica, though, it would probably be this one judging entirely by the cover &#8211; shallow of me, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;MoJo: What, you won’t pay that for the Author, Her Scribe, His Editor, and Their Cover?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

BWA!

Remember, we&#039;re talking about the DIGITAL book.  There is no cover, no typeset, no paper, no size (except the one I adjust my eBookWise to).  Just HTML crunched to within an inch of its life.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>MoJo: What, you won’t pay that for the Author, Her Scribe, His Editor, and Their Cover?</p></blockquote>
<p>BWA!</p>
<p>Remember, we&#8217;re talking about the DIGITAL book.  There is no cover, no typeset, no paper, no size (except the one I adjust my eBookWise to).  Just HTML crunched to within an inch of its life.  <img src='http://www.readreactreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of the cost, I have to say these Spices beautiful books. I love everything about them -- the covers, the typeset, the size, the paper. You can easily hold them open without getting a hand cramp.

The Kinsale reissue, in contrast, had such tiny type, and I broke the spine trying to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of the cost, I have to say these Spices beautiful books. I love everything about them &#8212; the covers, the typeset, the size, the paper. You can easily hold them open without getting a hand cramp.</p>
<p>The Kinsale reissue, in contrast, had such tiny type, and I broke the spine trying to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: RfP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RfP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;lots of sex was consistent with lots of development of the main relationship.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeppo, that&#039;s key in erotic romance.  This clarifies it for me, thanks:&lt;blockquote&gt;In The Duchess, there are so many couplings among so many different people that they did less to propel characterization forward very far on any of them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;MoJo: What, you won&#039;t pay that for the Author, Her Scribe, His Editor, and Their Cover?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>lots of sex was consistent with lots of development of the main relationship.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeppo, that&#8217;s key in erotic romance.  This clarifies it for me, thanks:<br />
<blockquote>In The Duchess, there are so many couplings among so many different people that they did less to propel characterization forward very far on any of them.</p></blockquote>
<p>MoJo: What, you won&#8217;t pay that for the Author, Her Scribe, His Editor, and Their Cover?</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well.  I went to eHarlequin with the express intention of buying this E-book and saw:  $11.30.  Books on Board has it for $9.98.

I don&#039;t think so.

My book has 3 romances over 736 pages and I&#039;m selling it in a zip file with 8 different ebook formats for $8.99.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well.  I went to eHarlequin with the express intention of buying this E-book and saw:  $11.30.  Books on Board has it for $9.98.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>My book has 3 romances over 736 pages and I&#8217;m selling it in a zip file with 8 different ebook formats for $8.99.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lady of the Review,

I felt there was a lot of random sex, too, but I blame my love of straight romance for not enjoying it. This is erotica and I felt I needed to try to judge it in those terms.

Meriam,

I love the title, too. Very &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097108/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter Greenaway&lt;/a&gt;!

RfP,

I don&#039;t have a lot of experience with erotica (1 Lora Leigh, 1 Joey Hill, that&#039;s about it). I have read 3 Spices, all by Megan Hart. Since Hart&#039;s books focus exclusively on two or at most three sex partners, lots of sex was consistent with lots of development of the main relationship. In The Duchess, there are so many couplings among so many different people that they did less to propel characterization forward very far on any of them. 

You&#039;re right --  Delta was too strong a descriptor for Henry. He is very passive, and not very bright. He&#039;s impotent in life, and he knows it. For most of the book his ambition is for the Duchess to know how he feels about her -- not to have her return the feelings. I felt Janssen made very interesting choices here. He&#039;s not generic at all in the sense that this is not a very common male character from what I have read. But he&#039;s also not very interesting or distinctive, and I had a hard time understanding the Duchess&#039;s interest in him. But Janssen was very consistent: Henri did not suddenly shed his docile personality like a cloak and become an alpha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lady of the Review,</p>
<p>I felt there was a lot of random sex, too, but I blame my love of straight romance for not enjoying it. This is erotica and I felt I needed to try to judge it in those terms.</p>
<p>Meriam,</p>
<p>I love the title, too. Very <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097108/" rel="nofollow">Peter Greenaway</a>!</p>
<p>RfP,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a lot of experience with erotica (1 Lora Leigh, 1 Joey Hill, that&#8217;s about it). I have read 3 Spices, all by Megan Hart. Since Hart&#8217;s books focus exclusively on two or at most three sex partners, lots of sex was consistent with lots of development of the main relationship. In The Duchess, there are so many couplings among so many different people that they did less to propel characterization forward very far on any of them. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8212;  Delta was too strong a descriptor for Henry. He is very passive, and not very bright. He&#8217;s impotent in life, and he knows it. For most of the book his ambition is for the Duchess to know how he feels about her &#8212; not to have her return the feelings. I felt Janssen made very interesting choices here. He&#8217;s not generic at all in the sense that this is not a very common male character from what I have read. But he&#8217;s also not very interesting or distinctive, and I had a hard time understanding the Duchess&#8217;s interest in him. But Janssen was very consistent: Henri did not suddenly shed his docile personality like a cloak and become an alpha.</p>
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		<title>By: RfP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RfP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;not being an erotica lover, if I had my druthers, I would cut about 80% of the sex and rewrite this as an erotic romance with a strong focus on Camille and Henri’s relationship.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Perhaps it&#039;s only the way you described it, but the plot sounds reminiscent of a Susan Johnson novel, as does the carefree attitude toward the shagging.  So that&#039;s definitely shading how I interpret this review.

I&#039;m not much of an erotica reader either, but I&#039;ve read quite a bit of what I consider erotic &lt;i&gt;romance&lt;/i&gt;, some of it emotionally more like &#039;traditional&#039; romance and some emotionally more on the erotica end of the spectrum (i.e. sex=fun, and fewer words given to explicitly expressing love).  Have you read any of the erotic romance of 10 years-or-so ago?  I&#039;m thinking of the less romanticized, more &quot;let&#039;s get it ON&quot; branch of erotic romance, like the Johnson/Devine/Schone/Small anthologies (&lt;i&gt;Fascinated&lt;/i&gt;, etc).  I&#039;m wondering whether, having read those, I would read this book as straight erotica as you did, or whether it might fit in with those erotica-tilted authors and novellas.&lt;blockquote&gt;With apologies to Huxley, he’s maybe a Delta, a very good egg without unrealistic hopes who knows his place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&#039;s a bit off-putting, given Deltas were bokanovskified into obedient, khaki-wearing, incurious clones--not quite drones, as I recall, but close.  (I just reread the book last year and those descriptions of the muted human spirit horrified me anew.)  Is Henri generic, or simply placid or accepting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>not being an erotica lover, if I had my druthers, I would cut about 80% of the sex and rewrite this as an erotic romance with a strong focus on Camille and Henri’s relationship.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s only the way you described it, but the plot sounds reminiscent of a Susan Johnson novel, as does the carefree attitude toward the shagging.  So that&#8217;s definitely shading how I interpret this review.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not much of an erotica reader either, but I&#8217;ve read quite a bit of what I consider erotic <i>romance</i>, some of it emotionally more like &#8216;traditional&#8217; romance and some emotionally more on the erotica end of the spectrum (i.e. sex=fun, and fewer words given to explicitly expressing love).  Have you read any of the erotic romance of 10 years-or-so ago?  I&#8217;m thinking of the less romanticized, more &#8220;let&#8217;s get it ON&#8221; branch of erotic romance, like the Johnson/Devine/Schone/Small anthologies (<i>Fascinated</i>, etc).  I&#8217;m wondering whether, having read those, I would read this book as straight erotica as you did, or whether it might fit in with those erotica-tilted authors and novellas.<br />
<blockquote>With apologies to Huxley, he’s maybe a Delta, a very good egg without unrealistic hopes who knows his place.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit off-putting, given Deltas were bokanovskified into obedient, khaki-wearing, incurious clones&#8211;not quite drones, as I recall, but close.  (I just reread the book last year and those descriptions of the muted human spirit horrified me anew.)  Is Henri generic, or simply placid or accepting?</p>
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		<title>By: Meriam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;she has a gaggle of minions whom she rules imperiously but not tyrannically. Her main aim in the book is deposing her husband and ruling her duchy, not falling in love, and although she does come to trust Henri, that never changes. Often when women enjoy this kind of power in erotica or romance, they are evil.&lt;/i&gt;

Very interesting point. I love the idea of reading about a woman who doesn&#039;t fit the usual mold. Plus, Janssen had me at the title; it&#039;s great and makes me want to buy it, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>she has a gaggle of minions whom she rules imperiously but not tyrannically. Her main aim in the book is deposing her husband and ruling her duchy, not falling in love, and although she does come to trust Henri, that never changes. Often when women enjoy this kind of power in erotica or romance, they are evil.</i></p>
<p>Very interesting point. I love the idea of reading about a woman who doesn&#8217;t fit the usual mold. Plus, Janssen had me at the title; it&#8217;s great and makes me want to buy it, now.</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolyn jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review.  This sounds like quite the fun read.</description>
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