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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
		<link>http://www.readreactreview.com/2008/10/22/why-exactly-are-vampires-alluring/#comment-482</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess I don’t have many readers of this blog who go in for the vamp romance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That would include me, too.  I got worn out with that years ago and why the trend has a seemingly soulless yet eternal existence is beyond me.  *I* am not buying them and I don&#039;t know anyone who is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess I don’t have many readers of this blog who go in for the vamp romance.</p></blockquote>
<p>That would include me, too.  I got worn out with that years ago and why the trend has a seemingly soulless yet eternal existence is beyond me.  *I* am not buying them and I don&#8217;t know anyone who is.</p>
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		<title>By: Tumperkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tumperkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;m going to try posting this comment again.  I see to have real problems posting on your site, Jessica!

Far from being alluring, the eternal life part is off-putting to me.  As I posted on a few months ago:

http://tumperkin.blogspot.com/2008/05/hea-paranormal-style.html

I&#039;ve not read that much paranormal stuff, but of the stuff I&#039;ve read, I&#039;ve much preferred the warts-and-all views of paranormal *life*.

I wonder whether part of the appeal is that it&#039;s an extension of the &#039;tortured hero&#039;.  Vamp heroes tend to require extreme redemption, with heroines sometimes literally saving them from losing their souls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;m going to try posting this comment again.  I see to have real problems posting on your site, Jessica!</p>
<p>Far from being alluring, the eternal life part is off-putting to me.  As I posted on a few months ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://tumperkin.blogspot.com/2008/05/hea-paranormal-style.html" rel="nofollow">http://tumperkin.blogspot.com/2008/05/hea-paranormal-style.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not read that much paranormal stuff, but of the stuff I&#8217;ve read, I&#8217;ve much preferred the warts-and-all views of paranormal *life*.</p>
<p>I wonder whether part of the appeal is that it&#8217;s an extension of the &#8216;tortured hero&#8217;.  Vamp heroes tend to require extreme redemption, with heroines sometimes literally saving them from losing their souls.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tumpkerin,

Great post - Thank you for the link. I&#039;m not sure I can think of an example of a vamp hero being &quot;exorcised&quot; in the sense you describe. Maybe Angel after he loses his soul and gets it back again on Buffy. Were you thinking of a particular book?


I guess I don&#039;t have many readers of this blog who go in for the vamp romance. I wonder what die hard vamp rom lovers would have to say: do they overlook the aspects of vamp love that are unappealing, or do they actually find them appealing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tumpkerin,</p>
<p>Great post &#8211; Thank you for the link. I&#8217;m not sure I can think of an example of a vamp hero being &#8220;exorcised&#8221; in the sense you describe. Maybe Angel after he loses his soul and gets it back again on Buffy. Were you thinking of a particular book?</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t have many readers of this blog who go in for the vamp romance. I wonder what die hard vamp rom lovers would have to say: do they overlook the aspects of vamp love that are unappealing, or do they actually find them appealing?</p>
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		<title>By: Tumperkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tumperkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far from being alluring, the eternal life part is off-putting to me.  As I posted on a few months ago:

http://tumperkin.blogspot.com/2008/05/hea-paranormal-style.html

I&#039;ve not read that much paranormal stuff, but of the stuff I&#039;ve read, I&#039;ve much preferred the warts-and-all views of paranormal *life*.

I&#039;m not much of a vamp-lover myself but speaking with very little experience, a theme that seems to arise a lot in the books I&#039;ve read is one of &#039;extreme redemption&#039;.  Vamp heroes aren&#039;t merely redeemed.  They&#039;re almost - I don&#039;t know - exorcised?  Brought back from the howling darkness of having lost their souls?  It&#039;s like a much more extreme version of the tortured hero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far from being alluring, the eternal life part is off-putting to me.  As I posted on a few months ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://tumperkin.blogspot.com/2008/05/hea-paranormal-style.html" rel="nofollow">http://tumperkin.blogspot.com/2008/05/hea-paranormal-style.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not read that much paranormal stuff, but of the stuff I&#8217;ve read, I&#8217;ve much preferred the warts-and-all views of paranormal *life*.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not much of a vamp-lover myself but speaking with very little experience, a theme that seems to arise a lot in the books I&#8217;ve read is one of &#8216;extreme redemption&#8217;.  Vamp heroes aren&#8217;t merely redeemed.  They&#8217;re almost &#8211; I don&#8217;t know &#8211; exorcised?  Brought back from the howling darkness of having lost their souls?  It&#8217;s like a much more extreme version of the tortured hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristie,

How unfortunate that you discovered you didn&#039;t like Feehan AFTER acquiring her books! I am more with you than Marisa, at least when it comes to &lt;em&gt;Dark Prince.&lt;/em&gt; When I read that book, I felt like I was stuck in some vicious cycle: you&#039;re mine! I&#039;m not (but you&#039;re hot)! She&#039;s running away! Get her back again! You&#039;re still mine! I&#039;m not (but you&#039;re still hot)! Ugh. On the other hand, I&#039;ve enjoyed other Feehan books.

Marsha,

what a great point about the difference between human fear of blood and vampire worship of it. I remember the horror with which people greeted the news that Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton wore vials of each other&#039;s blood around their necks. Blood can have supreme ritual significance to humans (blood brothers, pacts sealed in blood) but I don&#039;t know of human cultures where blood and sex or romantic love go together (which is not to say in the least that they don&#039;t exist. I&#039;m no anthropologist).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristie,</p>
<p>How unfortunate that you discovered you didn&#8217;t like Feehan AFTER acquiring her books! I am more with you than Marisa, at least when it comes to <em>Dark Prince.</em> When I read that book, I felt like I was stuck in some vicious cycle: you&#8217;re mine! I&#8217;m not (but you&#8217;re hot)! She&#8217;s running away! Get her back again! You&#8217;re still mine! I&#8217;m not (but you&#8217;re still hot)! Ugh. On the other hand, I&#8217;ve enjoyed other Feehan books.</p>
<p>Marsha,</p>
<p>what a great point about the difference between human fear of blood and vampire worship of it. I remember the horror with which people greeted the news that Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton wore vials of each other&#8217;s blood around their necks. Blood can have supreme ritual significance to humans (blood brothers, pacts sealed in blood) but I don&#8217;t know of human cultures where blood and sex or romantic love go together (which is not to say in the least that they don&#8217;t exist. I&#8217;m no anthropologist).</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the vamp books are set up with a mythology wherein only the mated pairs exchange blood. What an escalation of marriage!  I mean, exchanging vows and rings is one thing, but blood?  Not so much at my house - like with the girlfriends with whom I&#039;ve had this discussion, our intimacies avoid blood scrupulously.  And when our kids were born my husband told me that the most alarming part was so much of it front and center for his attention.  &quot;I like your blood inside you where it belongs,&quot; he says, &quot;Not all out and about getting on stuff.&quot;  Not at all what a vamp husband would say - no, a vampire partner would be all aflutter at what my own husband saw as so icky (Kresley Cole&#039;s vamps can be &quot;blooded&quot; by their mates and have beating hears and the capacity to impregnate their partners).  So, where a human guy would see that &quot;life force&quot; as not so much with the sexy, a vamp finds that same substance as supremely alluring and perhaps on par with the whatever it is humans fall in love with - heart, soul, brain.

The escalation of a relationship to include blood play  goes nicely with the FOREVER part of vamp coupledom, not only will they always be together but the blood sharing take the h/h well beyond typical sharing in human relationships.  In many of these books, the non-vamp needs to come to terms with the blood thing, taking time to recognize it as representing so much more than he or she would get with another human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the vamp books are set up with a mythology wherein only the mated pairs exchange blood. What an escalation of marriage!  I mean, exchanging vows and rings is one thing, but blood?  Not so much at my house &#8211; like with the girlfriends with whom I&#8217;ve had this discussion, our intimacies avoid blood scrupulously.  And when our kids were born my husband told me that the most alarming part was so much of it front and center for his attention.  &#8220;I like your blood inside you where it belongs,&#8221; he says, &#8220;Not all out and about getting on stuff.&#8221;  Not at all what a vamp husband would say &#8211; no, a vampire partner would be all aflutter at what my own husband saw as so icky (Kresley Cole&#8217;s vamps can be &#8220;blooded&#8221; by their mates and have beating hears and the capacity to impregnate their partners).  So, where a human guy would see that &#8220;life force&#8221; as not so much with the sexy, a vamp finds that same substance as supremely alluring and perhaps on par with the whatever it is humans fall in love with &#8211; heart, soul, brain.</p>
<p>The escalation of a relationship to include blood play  goes nicely with the FOREVER part of vamp coupledom, not only will they always be together but the blood sharing take the h/h well beyond typical sharing in human relationships.  In many of these books, the non-vamp needs to come to terms with the blood thing, taking time to recognize it as representing so much more than he or she would get with another human.</p>
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		<title>By: Marisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post really had me thinking about the first vampire book I ever read. I believe it was Christine Feehan&#039;s Dark Prince. I loved the book and searched out more... Why? I&#039;m not sure, but I will tell you that when you said &lt;b&gt;Power&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Un-Pc&lt;/b&gt; it rang a bell with me. It seems these Vamp heroes can get away with a lot more than other heroes can - at least for me. I&#039;ll accept a lot from them that I wouldn&#039;t necessarily accept from other romance heroes.  Ah... my prejudice shows how un-pc of me.  But there it is. For me they can get away with a lot more and I won&#039;t toss the book across the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post really had me thinking about the first vampire book I ever read. I believe it was Christine Feehan&#8217;s Dark Prince. I loved the book and searched out more&#8230; Why? I&#8217;m not sure, but I will tell you that when you said <b>Power</b> and <b>Un-Pc</b> it rang a bell with me. It seems these Vamp heroes can get away with a lot more than other heroes can &#8211; at least for me. I&#8217;ll accept a lot from them that I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily accept from other romance heroes.  Ah&#8230; my prejudice shows how un-pc of me.  But there it is. For me they can get away with a lot more and I won&#8217;t toss the book across the room.</p>
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		<title>By: KristieJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KristieJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL - to me they aren&#039;t really.  I&#039;ve read the first 2 JR Ward books and while I quite enjoyed them - I haven&#039;t been in any hurry to read the rest.  I tried a couple of Christine Feehan&#039;s vampire books but didn&#039;t care for them at all (after buying almost the whole series) I haven&#039;t even been tempted to try the Sookie Stackhouse books.
The exception though is Lara Adrian.  I&#039;ve really enjoyed her books.
I much prefer a good werewolf :-)
I think I&#039;m too creeped out by the fact that basically vampires are - well - dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8211; to me they aren&#8217;t really.  I&#8217;ve read the first 2 JR Ward books and while I quite enjoyed them &#8211; I haven&#8217;t been in any hurry to read the rest.  I tried a couple of Christine Feehan&#8217;s vampire books but didn&#8217;t care for them at all (after buying almost the whole series) I haven&#8217;t even been tempted to try the Sookie Stackhouse books.<br />
The exception though is Lara Adrian.  I&#8217;ve really enjoyed her books.<br />
I much prefer a good werewolf <img src='http://www.readreactreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I think I&#8217;m too creeped out by the fact that basically vampires are &#8211; well &#8211; dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn Jean,

That&#039;s a good point about the bite. There&#039;s flesh involved, which I forgot. It&#039;s not like they&#039;re poking a syringe into each other. Hmmm... I wonder if we can connect the pain of that act to the
increasing acceptance of sex games that involves pain in our society. (Probably a stretch.)

Laura,

Thanks for the link! You know what I just realized? Fighting for the vampire&#039;s soul, which JC discusses, and which is so important a feature of, for example, the &lt;em&gt;Buffy&lt;/em&gt; mythology, is a nonissue in most vamp romances I have read.  Sometimes, as in Lara Adrian&#039;s Midnight Breed series, you have the threat of bloodlust taking over, but it&#039;s never couched in terms of soul preservation or recovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn Jean,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point about the bite. There&#8217;s flesh involved, which I forgot. It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re poking a syringe into each other. Hmmm&#8230; I wonder if we can connect the pain of that act to the<br />
increasing acceptance of sex games that involves pain in our society. (Probably a stretch.)</p>
<p>Laura,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link! You know what I just realized? Fighting for the vampire&#8217;s soul, which JC discusses, and which is so important a feature of, for example, the <em>Buffy</em> mythology, is a nonissue in most vamp romances I have read.  Sometimes, as in Lara Adrian&#8217;s Midnight Breed series, you have the threat of bloodlust taking over, but it&#8217;s never couched in terms of soul preservation or recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Vivanco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Vivanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I don&#039;t find vampires particularly appealing, I&#039;ve nothing new to suggest about the allure of vampires but I just remembered that JC &lt;a href=&quot;http://romanceresearch.blogspot.com/2008/09/intertextuality-and-vampire-romance.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote a post about them&lt;/a&gt; not so long ago. She focussed on how vampires are creatures associated with death and how the dynamic changes when the vampire is the hero of a romance, which is something you touch on in your last point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I don&#8217;t find vampires particularly appealing, I&#8217;ve nothing new to suggest about the allure of vampires but I just remembered that JC <a href="http://romanceresearch.blogspot.com/2008/09/intertextuality-and-vampire-romance.html" rel="nofollow">wrote a post about them</a> not so long ago. She focussed on how vampires are creatures associated with death and how the dynamic changes when the vampire is the hero of a romance, which is something you touch on in your last point.</p>
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